tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7465412.post113493775707442167..comments2023-09-02T18:55:01.284+05:00Comments on Aspirations.......: ReplyMuhammad Saqib Ilyashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06545882455769099931noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7465412.post-1135718756732410712005-12-28T02:25:00.000+05:002005-12-28T02:25:00.000+05:00@ AnonymousRegarding the last paragraph of your po...@ Anonymous<BR/><BR/>Regarding the last paragraph of your post, I couldn't disagree more. We are NOT 5 nations forced into a single box, we are ONE nation forced into 4 boxes; and that is not the reason for our backwardness. The problems are more profound. Will blog about it sometime.Adnan Farooq Hashmihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02084186570374676836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7465412.post-1135677538205698132005-12-27T14:58:00.000+05:002005-12-27T14:58:00.000+05:00Im also a graduate of PAF-KIET and I do admit that...Im also a graduate of PAF-KIET and I do admit that the standard has gone down a lot as the BOD are more interested in minting money than providing quality education. CS Dept. used to have the highest enrolment but due to changing economic environment, ppl. are more interested in doing their BBA & MBA cause lets face it, in Pakistan an IT graudate can never get to the top unless he starts his own company.<BR/><BR/>The other thing is that dont beleive what you hear. During my 3 years in PAF-KIET, I only attended seminars and GSS in the first semester and after that it was all proxy. Those incharge of arranging the seminars just used to fill up the Auditorium with whatever they can find and get hold of regardless of his programme (MBA, BBA, BCS). <BR/><BR/>The thing about quality faculty and Dr. Irfan being one of them...well here is what I have to say. He has never thought a single course in PAF-KIET since he joined here. Infact he could find the time to go to FAST and evaluate their final year students projects but couldnt find the time to move 5 feet and evaluate the projects of his own institute. He is only there because KIET needs a PHD with his name and because he is a relative of one of the powerful BOD of PAF-KIET.<BR/><BR/>The story about the faculty member who said "I dont teach DBMS" well what can we do, I totally agree with Saqib Ilayas on that but that guy had credibility on paper. He has a BS from GIK and an MS from LUMS. That may have slipped off his tounge or he heard the query forwarded to him wrongly.<BR/><BR/>And the last but not the least. Mr. Adnan, Im really dissapointed at reading ur comments about Mohajirs. The only reason why we are behind in all walks of life is because we dont act like a nation, we were and still are 5 nations forced into a single box thats Pakistan. Unless we get rid of those ethinic barriers we will stay the same and eventually will be overcome by those who wish to see us wipped off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7465412.post-1135655454082688732005-12-27T08:50:00.000+05:002005-12-27T08:50:00.000+05:00mqpasta, I understand what you were saying and I d...mqpasta, I understand what you were saying and I didnt see any disagreement in your post. I was just elaborating my point in ways that I had not in my earlier post. Thanks for your appreciation. We're only doing whatever small contributions we can make. It's like rewarding someone for doing good. One shouldnt be rewarded for doing good, because doing good is logical. Punished should, on the other hand be veted out to those who do wrong. It's like we print a news item when an honest police officer returns someone's wallet. It is good in the sense that we are highlighting him as a role model, but logically, he has done what he should have done. When we do what we are supposed to do, that is natural. For example, on our jobs, we get paid the regular salary for doing what we're supposed to do. We get paid a bonus when we go out of our way doing something we could have done but were not supposed to do it. Take care.Muhammad Saqib Ilyashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06545882455769099931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7465412.post-1135646500600535352005-12-27T06:21:00.000+05:002005-12-27T06:21:00.000+05:00I don’t know what did you think about my comments,...I don’t know what did you think about my comments, but I had agreed with you and nor like blame to teachers (at least completely). But, I tried to pin point the route case at students’ side. <BR/><BR/>Efforts from you people in form of INETA activates are good initiated and I believe such activates will help to generate awareness not only among students but also among faculties of universities that where are we standing?Qasim Pastahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11250381474916221292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7465412.post-1135319763936228882005-12-23T11:36:00.000+05:002005-12-23T11:36:00.000+05:00I dont know if not citing specific examples would ...I dont know if not citing specific examples would have made things better. It's just a matter of personal preferences as I prefer to be blunt about the truth, even if it is a bitter truth about myself. Just a matter of personal style.<BR/>One thing to note is that when we are studying at an institute, we cant find a spare moment where we couldnt think of the shortcomings of the institute and the teachers. Later, after graduation, we defend the institute and its teachers as if it was the word of God. I wonder whether we grow up or down. But that's the trend.<BR/>My belief is that if someone can benefit from me, then I shouldnt hold it back. I can tell you that I have driven to people's places an hour's drive away on multiple occassions who needed guidance with something, just for this reason. That's just the way I think. You may or may not agree with that.Muhammad Saqib Ilyashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06545882455769099931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7465412.post-1135233182131529472005-12-22T11:33:00.000+05:002005-12-22T11:33:00.000+05:00I Couldn't believe, this Discussion will bring suc...I Couldn't believe, this Discussion will bring such short sightedness .<BR/>@ Fahad salman : as I am also graduated from pafkiet,First of all i would like to Tell you that you should have to be properly discipline as you are representing pafkiet graduate, secondly We should have to know about the problems & how to solve them that has risen up by mr. saqib illiyas, neither to fight back what has already gone .<BR/>@ Saqib sahab : You are right, but better not to give examples directly . We should have to develop our education system as we have to compete internationally . with the sayings to our minds that we are good ,we are good doesn't make to solve such problems , still we are in our developing stage but our progress is slow as compared to other countries .I have just visited one of our neighbouring country which was a part of sub continent. Most of the Universities or institutes are affiliated from major USA & UK universities and from that thing they get there degress by world reknowned universities secondly they have top most consultancies in IT like, tata, wipro,infosys. For that reason they get jobs in there own country & internationally very easily. Saqib saheb being living in middle east I dont know where we are lacking > May be we are just bound to be solve improper situations in our own home either to look internationally. Because in other parts of world very few people know about NED or some more universities . and if you do something wrong everybody pointed that this pakistani is wrong and whole country(pak) is wrong. After 10 yrs of Era we are still considered to be just Educated nation. so this shouldn't be an example of any institute or college or university this would be an example of whole nation everyone is responsible everyone wants to take blind trust & money .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7465412.post-1135197627957078062005-12-22T01:40:00.000+05:002005-12-22T01:40:00.000+05:00haahahahaha....Cool dudes with bad moods....Mr.Adn...haahahahaha....Cool dudes with bad moods....Mr.Adnan Farooq is damn right!.....Its good to see that everybody is doing his own business...Keep it up.... ;)M Shoaib Sheikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17894760333011136474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7465412.post-1135193134691105762005-12-22T00:25:00.000+05:002005-12-22T00:25:00.000+05:00@Saqu bhaiI can't imagine dragging myself into thi...@Saqu bhai<BR/><BR/>I can't imagine dragging myself into this mud-slugging exercise and saying all the things I said. Its preposterous how some turn against the very people trying to put things in order. Makes me wonder if we really should be doing all the things we do on the INETA platform. But I also know there are many who look up to us and respect us, and it is precisely to those that we dedicate all our efforts to. I dont want to respond to this gentleman's comment again. End of discussion.Adnan Farooq Hashmihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02084186570374676836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7465412.post-1135183242085620172005-12-21T21:40:00.000+05:002005-12-21T21:40:00.000+05:00@Sabrina MalikThats the irony. One can never reaso...@Sabrina Malik<BR/>Thats the irony. One can never reason with a Mohajir.<BR/><BR/>@Fahad Salman<BR/>I guess everyone knows who has growing up to do. I have started to doubt my calibre since yesterday. I realize now that I should have joined PAF KITE (Patang). So, who helped you write the last English statements for you; your masters in India, or your Quaid in England?Adnan Farooq Hashmihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02084186570374676836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7465412.post-1135164144355925452005-12-21T16:22:00.000+05:002005-12-21T16:22:00.000+05:00No matter what anyone says, Saqu bhai, you are the...No matter what anyone says, Saqu bhai, you are the greatest.Adnan Farooq Hashmihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02084186570374676836noreply@blogger.com